Edward Bond KNIBBS, son of Thomas Edward KNIBBS and Lilian Mary WALSH , was born 09 November 1903 in West Derby District, Lancashire, England. He married Edith Louise JONES bet. April and June, 1927 in West Derby District, Derbyshire, England. He died September 1987 in Liverpool District, Lancashire, England. Edith Louise JONES was born bet. July and September, 1904 in West Derby District, Lancashire, England. She died 04 May 1948 in Maghull, Lancashire, England.


Children of Edward Bond KNIBBS and Edith Louise JONES are:
1. Robert Edward Bond KNIBBS, b. Private See Robert Edward Bond KNIBBS & Sheila P BETTERIDGE
2. Graham William KNIBBS, b. Private See Graham William KNIBBS & Elizabeth Whittle MCMANUS
3. Lilian E KNIBBS, b. bet. January and March, 1928

Notes for Edward Bond KNIBBS:

Also known as: Ted



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Ted was living with his parents in 1911 at 10 Kendrick Street, Seaforth, Nr. Liverpool, Lancashire in 1911:
Thomas Edward Knibbs Head Married 57 General Labourer Liverpool Lancs
Lilian Mary Knibbs Wife Married (19 years) Dress Maker Bootle Lancs
Ada May Knibbs Daughter Single 14 Seaforth Lancs
Amy Olive Knibbs Daughter qw SWchool Seaforth Lancs
Lily Emily Knibbs Daughter 8 School Deaforth Lancs
Edward Bond Knibbs Son 7 School Litherland Lancs
Doris May Knibbs Daughter 2 Bootle Lincs
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From the Liverpool Echo, 21 April 1925:
INCIDENT.
A sequel to an incident in a Seaforth social club was heard at the Liverpool County Police Court. today, when George Fairhurst (20), of Bootle, was summoned by Edward B. Knibbs for assault.
It was stated that on the night of April 7 Knibbs was in the social club, Crosby-road, Seaforth, when defendant accused him of having looked insultingly at him. Later, after complainant had left the club in company with a young lady, he was set upon by Fairhurst and three other young fellows.
"I am sorry, but I'm afraid it's the wrong fellow I hit," - was the explanation defendant offered, adding that he had had some drink. Defendant was ordered to pay £1 11s costs.

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From The People, 27 September 1964:
AFTER 47 YEARS AS A BOILERMAKER HE'S MOVING INTO THE TOP POP WORLD.... By Michael Knight
FOR 47 years, man and boy, Ted Knibbs was a boilermaker. And a very good boilermaker, too. He was loyal .. . all those 47 years were with the same firm.
He was respected by his employers and his fellow workmen alike . . the bosses made him a charge hand, his chums voted him a shop steward.
Ted is now 60 years old - just five years from the retirement and the pension he has so Justly earned.
And what does he do? He has thrown it all up - job. pension, security, the lot - to manage a pop group.
Now he is wondering: Have I done the silliest thing of my life?
One thing is certain, he really looks the part. In place of his blue boiler suit he now wears winklepicker shoes, a smart suit and slim-Jim tie.
It was two years ago that widower Ted from Bootle - right in the heart of the Mersey-beat country fell under the spell of the new beat musi
As secretary of his firm's social club, he organised concerts and arranged for artists to appear at them.
And as boilermaker Ted, social club secretary. he discovered a young singer. You now know him as Billy J. Kramer, who Is right at the top of the pops.
Persisted.
It was like this." said Ted last night In a local social club. In 1962 a bunch of lads were playing this beat music.
They asked me it I'd manage them, as I knew so many people In the Liverpool clubland.
"At first I refused, but when they persisted I agreed."
The singer with the group was Billy Forde, a railway apprentice. Ted decided Billy needed a more arresting name than Forde. Finally they settled on Kramer - and Billy Kramer and the Coasters were born.
Ted got down to the job as their manager, booking them engagements at social clubs in the Liverpool area. He carried on with his job as a boilermaker.
For pleasure.
Ted didn't put the boys under contract. He told me: " I was acting as their manager purely for the pleasure of it. They were not making a lot of money, so I didn't make anything out of it "
Last year Ted was Invited up to the offices of Brian Epstein, the manager of the Beatles.
Sald Ted "Brian approached me with a view to promoting them on a national basis. It was. or course, a wonderful opportunity for the lads and I was delighted to let them go.
"Even so. Billy wanted to be sure I was happy about the Idea.
"I told him: 'Billy I've Opened the door for you—do I have to kick you through It?'"
"Boom, boom"
That might have been the end of Ted Knibbs - pop group manager - but for one thing. He was utterly fascinated by this teenage music.
"The boom, boom, boom of it sends a thrll through my old veins" he said.
And so, in a few weeks "Teenage Ted" was back in the beat world. He told me how it happened.
"The Coasters had decided not to turn professional after all." said Ted.
"Brian Epstein found a new backing group for Billy called the Dakotas and put a J in the middle of Billy's name.
And the Coasters came back and asked me to carry on managing them."
ln May. 1963, Ted heard a lad of 14 singing. Ted decided he had great potential. This time, with the agreement of the boys parents he signed the lad up on five year contract.
The boys stage name was Chick Graham. Now he is a very up-and-coming name.
In October when Chick left school, he and the Coasters became professional. A month laterr Ted Knibbs also became a professional pop man.
He handed in his notice at F. Brady and Company, boilermakers, the firm he had been with since he was a tad of 13.
Things certainly started out well. Ted got them regular engagements and each member of the group and Ted were earning £20 to £25 a week.
They made two records but they didnt catch on. And last July and August they hit a slack period and found it difficult to get engagements.
A coupe of weeks ago came the incident which made Ted wonder if he had been mad to throw away his security.
He told me about it without and hint of bitterness..
A shock."
One afternoon Chick and the boys came round to see me. They said they wanted to find a new manager - someone with enough capital to push them to the top.
"They reckoned I hadn't done enough for them. It was a dreadful shock.
"I'd nurtured them from nothing. I'd given up my job and my pension and taken a gamble with them. And here they were showing me the door."
Happily. the trouble have been patched up, Chick Graham and the Coasters are now happy with Ted as their manager.
Things are looking up. They have a new disc on the way and they're soon off on a tour of Scotland.
So, Mr Epstein, you had better look out.
Boilermaker Ted has a new ambition - to take your title as King of the Big Beat World.

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Ted Knibbs was heavily involved in the pop music world in Liverpool in the 1960's and managed amongst others, the pop star Billy J Kramer, Billy & the Coasters and then Chick Graham & the Coasters. Ted built Billy Kramer to the brink of stardom before transferring Billy's management to Brian Epstein, the manager of the Beetles. Billy had been voted No.3 in the pop scene, after the Beatles who were No.1 and Gerry & the Pacemakers.

The Coasters didn't go with Billy Kramer to Brian Epstein so Ted found them a new singer, Chick Graham (real name Graham Jennings). The group eventually split in 1965.

When asked his opinion of the success of the Beatles, Ted replied:
"Definitely merited, because in my opinion they have been outstanding on the rock scene in Liverpool and have provided a certain zip and drive which no other group has attained. Their vocal abilities have definitely improved with the wider scope which is being given to them via the mediums of records and TV."

Sam Leach, the manager of the Beatles before Brian Epstein has it written into his web site that Ted was "undoubtedly the nicest person on our scene.
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From the Liverpool Echo - 23 May 1973:
When Cilla would give them a song at the drop of a hat.

Loud was the Cavern's rhythm slogan. The music had to bounce off the cellar roof and through the arches to make the kids appreciate it. Rory Storm and the Hurricanes had the touch. So did the Swinging Blue Jeans who had a following of fans as great as those of the Beatles for a long time.
Brian Epstein 's " stable of stars " grew steadily as success in recordings came his way. A very warm-voiced Bootle boy named Billy Ashton. sing-ing under the name of Billy Kramer and backed by a group called The Coasters, had won Cavern acclaim. They took the top award as the best non-professional group in the area and Billy thought they ought to turn full-tune professional.
But the boys In the Coasters considered it too risky. as they all had good jobs and played only as a side-line. The man who had guided them through their career to date, part-time manager Ted Knibbs, agreed with Billy and unselfishly offered to see Brian Epstein and talk to him about taking over Billy's contract, as Brian way more likely to help the lad with his future as a solo singer.
Ted Knibbs was as good as his word. He, Brian and Billy Kramer met in the Nems office In Whitechapel. There was £50 outstanding to Knibbs for expenses he had incurred on Billy's account. Brian agreed to pay that and thereupon took over Kramer's sole management. His first act was the Inspiration of putting a "J" into the name and making Billy Ashton into Billy J. Kramer But Ted Knibbs told me later, when Billy had become famous, "I never did get that fifty quid from Brian."
Under the Epstein banner. Billy J. was whipped away from Liverpool to record in London. Be leapt to the top with "Do You Want to Know A Secret?" then toured America and Down Under with tremendous success. The Cavern saw him no more, except when be popped in to say hello.
He became No 1 in the hit charts three times in one year, 1964, and the Cavern crowds gloated his triumphs as he was "one of ours:"
That fierce belief of everything Liverpool being the greatest, so far as the fans were concerned, car-ried the old Cavern through a decade of good and bad. With so many would-be stars battling for a place in the sun, many had to fall Into the shadows. And they did.
Scores of groups of varying talent took the stage, hopefully dreaming that they, too, would be discovered and lifted to fortune. But the vital spark had gone from the cellar. There was no more gold left there to find.

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From the Liverpool Echo - 20 March 1984:
A great gathering of the Cavern!
I spent a lovely couple of hours back in the past on Sunday afternoon at the new Cavern Club when all the groups who have appeared there gathered there to sign the wall at the back of the stage.
What a marvellous job The Royal Insurance have done. It's almost an exact replica of how the Cavern used to be. And I could close my eyes and picture again all those Cavern stompers of years ago.
One mistake they have made, though is that the stage is at the wrong end of the club and I bet every ex-Cave dweller who visits will spot it straight away.
I met so many people I haven't seen for so long, Ted Knibbs, former manager of Billy J. Kramer, now a sprightly 80 years old, Earl Preston, Lee Curtis, Beryl Marsden, the Dennisons, Johnny Guitar, the Blue Jeans, the Hideaways, Group One, and Sunny Web and the Cascades (and what a touching sight seeing the ageing Joe Butler helped on stage to sign the wall.)
At last Liverpool people to whom the Cavern is just a legend will be able to see exactly what it was like. What a grand opening it would be if we could have an all day show featuring as many bands as possible who appeared there, reunited for just that one day.
Wow!

Sources for Edward Bond KNIBBS:

  1. FreeBMD,
  2. Personal Contact with Graham William Knibbs,
  3. Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2004 
  4. Newspaper Article,

Notes for Edith Louise JONES:

Edith died at just 43 years of age.
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Knibbs Edith Louise of 5 Ford-close Orrell Liverpool wo wife of Edward Bond Knibbs died 4 May 1948 at Bootle Sanatorium Maghull Lancashire Administration Liverpool 13 July to the said Edward Bond Knibbs plater. Effects £418 2s. 8d.

Sources for Edith Louise JONES:

  1. Personal Contact with Tracy (Knibbs) Watson,
  2. Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Birth Index: 1837-1983 gave surname 
  3. FreeBMD,
  4. GRO England & Wales, from findmypast.com 
  5. Ancestry.com. - England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966,

Notes for Lilian E KNIBBS:

Sources for Lilian E KNIBBS:

  1. Personal Contact with Tracy (Knibbs) Watson,
  2. Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Birth Index: 1837-1983 
  3. FreeBMD,